Snowden: Aliens using encryption may keep us from detecting signals

By | September 26, 2015

snowdenaliensDuring a recent podcast interview with Neil deGrasse Tyson, former NSA contractor and whistleblower Edward Snowden made an off-the-cuff remark about aliens and encryption and why the latter might hinder efforts to find such beings. The gist of it was: aliens are probably using encryption, and as such we’re likely to miss any messages they send due to that encryption. SETI Institute has come back with a response, and has largely dismissed the concern.

The part of Snowden’s interview that managed to catch so much attention was thus:

“So if you have an an alien civilization trying to listen for other civilizations or our civilization trying to listen for aliens, there’s only one small period in the development of their society when all their communication will be sent via the most primitive and most unprotected means.”

The idea being that aliens are probably way ahead of us and have surpassed that time period, and thusly any messages they send will be encrypted and easy to mistake as random noise. SETI Institute, though, has dismissed that concern in a recent interview with Scientific American.

In fact, we don’t need an intelligible message from aliens that we can decipher and understand. Rather, humans are on the lookout for a “signal that tells us that somebody has a transmitter,” according to director of the Center for SETI Research Seth Shostak.

SETI is using radio telescopes to prowl space for narrow band signals – something that would indicate someone somewhere beyond our world has a transmitter. If such a signal was found, it wouldn’t matter if it was encrypted. Sort of like hearing someone yell: you wouldn’t have to understand what they shouted to know they’re there.

SOURCE: Scientific American

If the government knows anything about aliens, I’d assume that Snowden could know what they know, so anything he says about aliens is interesting. This also opens the door to people making claims that Snowden said this or that about aliens. In the Snowden and aliens arena, there was a post dated July 5th, 2013 that said the following:

CARACAS — Edward Snowden, the leaker of NSA surveillance documents, was granted asylum in Venezuela on Friday. With safe harbors in sight, Snowden was willing to share shocking and world-shattering exclusive secret government documents with the Internet Chronicle. Snowden's testimony was as follows:

"The highest levels of government don't know what to do about UFOs, and the official story that they are all merely weather balloons or natural phenomena have been clearly dismissed. If anything, these documents speak about UFOs as if they are surely guided by an intelligence beyond our own. As it turns out, the most credible and inexplicable sightings are of vehicles which have been spotted leaving the sea floor at hydrothermal vents and directly entering solar orbit. Because ballistic missile tracking systems and deep sea sonar are kept as state secrets, scientists don't have access to data about these objects. However, most of the contractors at DARPA are sure that there is a species more intelligent than homo sapiens living in the mantle of the Earth . . . It makes sense, if you think about it, because that is the only place where conditions have been more or less stable for billions of years. Extremophiles may live at different temperatures than us, but they have been able to thrive and develop intelligence at a seemingly accelerated rate. That's not true, because they've simply evolved at the same rate, but without many of the vicissitudes which set back surface life . . . The president receives daily briefings about their activities, but analysts believe their technology is so far advanced that we stand little chance of survival in any potential war. The general sentiment is that we are but ants from their perspective, so there is little chance they would empathize or attempt to communicate with us, and the current contingency plan is to detonate nuclear weapons in deep caverns to 'sting' the foe we have no hope of destroying in hopes it would discourage further attacks."

The author, Kilgoar (twitter), writes in a comment:

I've spoken with Snowden about this. He was not happy with some of my wording. The phrasing "more advanced" imposes teleology and the false idea that there is a single final goal in evolution. The capability of a species to navigate the sea floor and leave the vicinity of earth requires engineering and energy requirements that are far beyond anything humans have developed, but humans have not had to contend with this problem. Study of these objects, however, reveals that their mass-to-energy ratios are such that it is fairly certain the Ultraterrestrials have harnessed fusion reactions or something of equal energy efficiency. This means that each of their craft contain more energy than all of humanity has ever produced, and also that the Ultraterrestrials are certainly capable of interstellar travel. This has raised the question as to whether the Ultraterrestrials are native to Earth, but that's kind of like asking if humans are native to Earth.

Fun stuff. Fact check: Venezuela did offer asylum to Snowden on a Friday.

CARACAS, July 5 (Reuters) – Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro offered asylum to former U.S. intelligence contractor Edward Snowden on Friday in defiance of Washington, which is demanding his arrest for divulging details of secret U.S. spy programs. (source)

Be cautiously skeptical, the source€ appears to be a tongue in cheek blog, not a news organization. Another Snowden related post on that site claims Snowden was taken into custody in Alaska around April 19th, 2015.

“Sunday, Edward Snowden was taken into custody by Anchorage Police, arriving in Alaska early in the morning in a black unmarked helicopter. Snowden says he is glad he can now face a fair prosecution, as he hopes his latest documents will vindicate everything. Snowden spoke, passing out a fresh cache of the most secret White House documents to reporters, "These documents show the White House itself considers terrorism to be mere 'smoke and mirrors'." Snowden looked directly into the cameras and spoke calmly, as police looked on too shocked to stop him from speaking, "America's most deadly important security threat has been Methane deposits, known as clathrates, that are detonating in Siberia under mysterious conditions. The White House is afraid Vladimir Putin is working with a previously unknown intelligent species living beneath the earth's crust called the Chelovozyom. In the most terrifying of scenarios, Vladimir Putin and the Chelovozyom are working together to deterraform North America, which will become nothing but deserts and ice within just one generation. There are massive chemtrailing defense programs carried out by the US military to attempt to counteract the effects of climate warfare, but each year of chemtrailing only cancels out the detonation of one methane calthrate, and hundreds of clathrates are detonating each month.” – link

Seems to be creative writing vamping on known conspiracy themes with bits of truth thrown in.

I like the idea of ultraterrestrials, a super advanced race from earth currently living among us. Super advanced aliens could explain several strange things I’ve reported on over the years, such as the same house in Bosnia being hit be space rocks over the course of several years. This just isn’t possible without intelligent targeting. Could a satellite hit a house with a rock from space? I’m not sure it could. It might be done with a slingshot on a stealth hot air balloon during cloud cover, but I don’t see the point of anyone doing that.

targetA Bosnian man whose home has been hit an incredible five times by meteorites believes he is being targeted by aliens. Experts at Belgrade University have confirmed that all the rocks Radivoje Lajic has handed over were meteorites. They are now investigating local magnetic fields to try and work out what makes the property so attractive to the heavenly bodies. But Mr Lajic, who has had a steel girder reinforced roof put on the house he owns in the northern village of Gornja Lamovite, has an alternative explanation. He said: “I am obviously being targeted by extraterrestrials. I don’t know what I have done to annoy them but there is no other explanation that makes sense.

“The chance of being hit by a meteorite is so small that getting hit five times has to be deliberate.”

The first meteorite fell on his house in November last year and since then a further four have smashed into his home. The strikes always happen when it is raining heavily, never when there are clear skies. He said: “I did not know what the strange-looking stones were at first but I have since had them all confirmed as meteorites by experts at Belgrade University.

“I am being targeted by aliens. They are playing games with me.

“I don’t know why they are doing this. When it rains I can’t sleep for worrying about another strike.”

“And now, within the past month, another rock has hit the roof of his house, in defiance of all the odds — making it six strikes since the plague of meteorites began in 2007.”

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