Ten Proven US Government Conspiracies, and why I still trust the Government.

By | September 20, 2008

Ten Proven US Government Conspiracies and why I still trust the GovernmentThe FBI says a member of our government carried out the anthrax attacks of 2001. Alone. Just one guy. If we learn that as few as ONE other person helped Bruce Ivins (a US government employee), this would be, by the legal definition, a “Government conspiracy”. The anthrax attacks would be conspiracy to commit murder and to create a public panic for financial gain.

Even if he acted alone, Ivins was a terrorist. He was a pro Israel religious US republican military citizen terrorist who attacked and killed Americans just after 9/11. Uncomfortable, isn’t it? I find it very difficult, even now. Even worse, Ivins, the supposed anthrax attacker, was on the team investigating the anthrax attacks. That means the anthrax attacks were, as the conspiracy theorists claimed, “an inside job.”  Do you get that?

To my faith-based all-trusting republican friends, I say, are you paying attention? Your trust in authority was betrayed. Someone who was on the team supposedly protecting you, turned out to be the perpetrator, the killer.  Why is that little computer in your head not melting down? How can you keep trusting the government?

Well, I still trust the government. Lets be reasonable: The 8 million people employed by the US Government (I am one of them, by the way) are not all conspiring to rob, poison, kill or enslave the other 297 million.

Many people are lazy but most are good, most people have good motives. That includes most people in the CIA, most people in the FBI, and most people in the Pentagon, the way I see it.

Individuals and small groups both inside and outside our government, motivated by fear, greed, laziness and illogical thinking, do occasionally manage to pull off some real conspiracies. Evil doings of secret groups sometimes stay hidden for many years, even many decades. We know this because people are caught, tried, and thrown in jail for conspiracy. We know this, because years later, the facts come to light. Here are ten real proven US government conspiracies:

The conspiracy of 1865 to assassinate U.S. President Abraham Lincoln and members of his cabinet.

Tuskegee Syphilis Study ongoing from 1932 to 1972 knowingly killed hundreds of low-income African American men. U.S. Public Health Service wanted to experiment with the effects of untreated syphilis. Low-income African American men were lured into study with promise of free health care. Instead they were intentionally lied to and given placebo treatments. Even when they could have easily been saved by penicillin they were left to die for the benefit of the syphilis study program. Tuskegee Syphilis Study Source

Human Radiation Experiments.1944 to 1974. In 1995 the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments reported that over a 30-year period, the government sponsored, through several different agencies, thousands of human radiation experiments and several hundred intentional releases of radiation. To the question of whether similar abuses could occur again, particularly in the case of intentional releases, the committee gives “a qualified yes.” It notes that some agencies can still invoke national security considerations to waive consent requirements, that agencies are often responsible for their own oversight, and that environmental impact statements relating to classified projects are not available for public scrutiny.

The 1945 Operation Paperclip, the extraction of top Nazi scientists to the US. … the Nazi Intelligence leader Reinhard Gehlen met with the CIA director Allen Dulles. Dulles and Gehlen hit it off immediatly. Gehlen was a master spy for the Nazis and had infiltrated Russia with his vast Nazi Intelligence network. Dulles promised Gehlen that his Intelligence unit was safe in the CIA. As promised, Allen Dulles delivered the Nazi Intelligence unit to the CIA, which later opened many umbrella projects stemming from Nazi mad research. (MK-ULTRA / ARTICHOKE, OPERATION MIDNIGHT CLIMAX) Military Intelligence “cleansed” the files of Nazi references. By 1955, more than 760 German scientists had been granted citizenship in the U.S. and given prominent positions in the American scientific community. Many had been longtime members of the Nazi party and the Gestapo, had conducted experiments on humans at concentration camps, had used slave labor, and had committed other war crimes. –ca

MKULTRA is a CIA experiment where drugs were given to Americans without their knowledge or consent. This involved giving LSD, marijuana, barbiturates, heroine, mescaline, alcohol and more to unsuspecting people. … started in 1950 to study mind control and behavior modification. In 1973 Richard Helms head of the CIA deliberately destroyed all the records. MKULTRA Source

Operation Mockingbird was a CIA project created to control the domestic and foreign media [beginning in the 1950s.] They bribed well-known writers and journalists to write … slanted propaganda. The goal was primarily to bribe writers to write about the dangers of communism and suppress any left wing political writing. In 1976 George H.W. Bush the new director of the CIA announced that this activity will stop but they would welcome the voluntary unpaid cooperation of writers. Operation Mockingbird Source

Project SHAD was created by the United States Department of Defense in 1962. They intentionally exposed our military personnel with biological and chemical agents on 46 different occasions. This was done without the military personnel knowledge or consent. They wanted to experiment on how soldiers can be exposed to dangerous chemicals and continue to fight. This testing was conducted from 1962-1973. The Department of Defense refused to admit SHAD existed until 1998. Project SHAD Source

Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false flag conspiracy plan, proposed within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba. One plan was to “develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington”. This operation is especially notable in that it included plans for hijackings and bombings followed by the use of phony evidence that would blame the terrorist acts on foreign governments. Operation Northwoods was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and signed by then-Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer, and sent to the Secretary of Defense.

The Gulf of Tonkin Incident is the name given to two separate incidents involving naval forces of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (North Vietnam) and the United States in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. On August 4, 1964, the US government lied about war ships engaging North Vietnamese vessels in combat.  In 2005, an official NSA declassified report stated. “[I]t is not simply that there is a different story as to what happened; it is that no attack happened that night.” The Gulf of Tonkin Incident  prompted the first large-scale involvement of U.S. armed forces in Southeast Asia.

The Watergate scandals 1972 to 1974 during the presidency of Richard Nixon resulted in the indictment of several of Nixon’s closest advisors and ultimately his resignation on August 9, 1974. The scandal revealed the existence of a White House dirty tricks squad, which was behind an orchestrated campaign of political sabotage, an enemies list, a “plumbers” unit to plug political leaks and a secret campaign slush fund associated with CRP, all with high-level administration involvement. It brought into the open the involvement of Attorney General John N. Mitchell in the dirty tricks, funds and cover-up, as well as key White House advisers, all of whom went to prison for these crimes, for sentences of one to four years.

All of these proven conspiracies by people in positions of power in the US government over the span of over 100 years aren’t simply cases of evil. Rather, one group, believing it is serving the greater good, harms or attempts to harm another group and tries to hide it.

One huge blind spot in human logic is that we are terrible with probabilities. Most people wrongly believe that when an event is dramatic it is also frequent. We exaggerate the frequency of dramatic events. Know this, and  you can relax a bit. There is not a government conspiracy around every corner.

Look at the evidence, skeptically, case by case. The proven Watergate wire tap conspiracy does not mean that the government is listening right now to everything you say and type, or watching you with satellites that see though buildings. It does not mean that the Apollo Moon landings were faked, that 9/11 was an inside job, that Hoover plotted to get the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor, that AIDS is a US military weapon aimed at population reduction, that FEMA has US concentration camps and secret underground bases, that Fluoride in our water lowers IQ and increases suggestibility, that alien stories are used to cover up Nazi UFO technology, and so on.

On the flip side, my own investigations say that there often is an element of truth, some event or fact (possibly misinterpreted) that sparks the conspiracy theory in the first place. The same could be said of many of myths and stories.  Even in this information age, most people don’t check facts… but the tools for you to do so have never been better.

Yes, I still trust the government as a whole, but it is obvious from our history that we need checks and balances. Trust but verify.


[Update 6/18/2014: The above was written before Snowden. It turns out “the government” (NSA, which shares with other agencies) was indeed recording a lot of  your activities on the Internet: Email, Web browsing, chats, video conversations, and more. They still have those records on you, as far as we know. Evidence the government is using your home WiFi as radar to watch you move around in your house through the walls has not been released, but this is theoretically possible.]

49 thoughts on “Ten Proven US Government Conspiracies, and why I still trust the Government.

  1. Nancy Myers

    I believe since the taliban can melt c4 into paint, they can inject themselves with c4 and go any where without our government even knowing it. Just like we put chips in our animals, they can install a detination chip in themselves. We will not be able to detect c4 in a human body.

    1. justin

      that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard, we are all now dumber for listening to you “nancy”

    2. Mark

      C4 is toxic, and while the Taliban could potentially inject someone, they would likely be dead within a matter of days. As in 2 maybe more.

      1. Tom

        but that would leave them time to get in position. Also it being toxic once they were injected there would be no turning back from their mission.

  2. Ann

    If it was not for Nixon’s political fiasco and the following Congressional hearings that forced CIA to open some of its files to the public in the 1970s a lot of the conspiracy theories that you listed, Xeno, would still be in the realm of something like “folk conspiracies” today and without substance. (Just as the “conspiracy” theories revolving around 9-11 today – I guess we’ll have to wait for another Nixon-like crime is committed by a president before the inside account of 9-11 will be revealed. But, it going to have to be a crime on US soil, because Bush II proved a US president can anything on foreign soil and get away with it.)

    Since the 1970s our beloved CIA has continued its secretive policies … for the sake of “national security,” of course.

  3. vicky

    And its the ones like you justin that make out that you are the only intelligant soul around, and that everyone else is crazy…..government style…

    1. velvet angel

      I’m sorry I’m with Justin on this one liquid C4 in your blood would render you dead so would be pointless now if you used it on say a cadaver for embalming then shipped that overseas now you are talking that said there would be plenty of places to insert explosives in a cadaver where it would be unlikely to be detected.

      1. Mark

        Yes, it’s possible but we have the detection capabilities to render such ventures impractical. Honestly, it would be more dependent on someone’s inability to properly follow procedures to get something like that through.

  4. Joern Baron

    My goodness!!! How many more need come to light to figure out there is much more going on that the government is still hiding????? I know without a doubt that 9/11 was an inside job….Operation Northwoods alone should raise flags in your mind….How long will people remain asleep in their matrix of “everything is under control and alright”???????? People will read this article and still be asleep and not care….unbelievable! At least some people are waking up to the atrocities that this Obama government is doing to our country…but still much more has to be done…. May God hae mercy on us and help us wake up!!! We all definitely need to prsy!

  5. Tom from Alabama

    I disagree with the writer. I do not trust the government in any capacity at this time. For one the decision makers are not made up of ordinary people just trying to make a living. They may be the dupes carrying out decisions and policies but for the most part they are caught up in the flow of trying to make a living and looking important to their associates. It is easy to get all pumped up with self importance and began to believe that if the anything being generated by the government has a very high and important purpose for our benefit that we cannot understand. Many years ago during the Vietnam War I was an employee of the Gov and witnessed first hand the wast and downright traitorous actions of supposedly responsible, honorable people. I have been there and done that.

  6. To Kill A Mocking Bird

    I agree with the author because I don’t want to perpetuate the myth that our Government is out to get us. I do believe that my trust doesn’t come with out suspicions. You should always take what an authority has to say with a grain of salt. We are all human and subject to human error and emotions. Its not fair to judge the whole on an individual’s actions. I also find it funny that a lot of the same people that made fun of Bush Jr. for choking on a pretzel are the same that seem to think the HE masterminded the whole 9/11 scenario.

    1. dale

      Cheney, not Bush. Cheney wouldn’t let Bush come back to Wash DC on 9/1 (he told him it was too dangerous repeatedly so he could remain in control of the reLsponse, which was zero. Consult a detailed timeline of 9/11 and you will see how Cheney kept Bush out of the loop.

      The 9/11 Commission, which the Bush regime tried to thwart but finally, over a year later took place, has (Kean and Farmer, the chief investigators have stated and written this publicly) confirmed that the government (many agencies) repeatedly lied to them. Why did the government lie to its own Commission? What were they covering up?

      Why isn’t there a demand for an independent investigation into why the government lied and what they are hiding?

      I know of no one who thinks Bush masterminded 9/11; the claims of an inside job focus on the CIA (which according to 2 whistleblowers knew of the coming attack) and Cheney. Bush was just a stooge so people would think he was too stupid to mastermind anything. And the basic claim is that the 9/11 attack was allowed to develop with government knowledge, which would explain why the government on the day of the attack had no response and then lied about it.

      Aren’t you interested to know why the government lied and what they were covering up? 9/11 was used to justify two wars (both based on more lies)…..just as the Gulf of Tonkin hoax was used to justify the War in Vietnam, where the US killed 5 million civliians (incl over 1 million children)—a war crime of a Hitlerian scale. We know the government lied when it said it had evidence of WMD and ties to al Quada in Iraq.

      And we know the government lied when it said it had evidence bin Laden was responsible for 9/11, but when the Taliban govt (which took power due to US arming the mllitants against the USSR) offered to turn over bin Laden to a neutral 3d nation for trial, if shown evidence, Bush did not show evidence (since he, Rice, and the FBI later admitted that there is no real evidence that bin Laden was behind 9/11…and so, against international law, he attacked anyway. Bin Laden was allowed to get away (US orders were not to capture or kill bin Laden once he was sighted in Tora Bora, so the job was given over to the inept Afghan forces, which did not pursue him).

      In both wars, Bush and his team said they had evidence but later admitted they did not. Going to war (in which over 500,000 civilians were killed) on speculation or “a strong feeling” is a war crime. To attack another nation, it is required that there be solid evidence of imminent threat. There was none. There was no evidence. They lied and half a million died…and Iraq (and Afghanistan) is still a bloody mess.

      Thus we see a pattern of the government lying to justify what otherwise would be the mother of all war crimes, the invasion of a nation which is not a real immediate threat. We know the government lied about 9/11, in order to
      make the case for war. Why would anyone believe the government when its own Commission says it lied?

  7. Kevin

    What it would appear is that the governmnet is simply a tool by a much, much more discrete group of uber-wealthy psychopaths who are hell bent on stripping people of any power they have to change things. This is done first and foremost through money, debt and the virtual creation of conflict that they can profit from. A day or two researching the history of the house of Rothschild will make this crystal clear. Politicians are simply PR people and aren’t ‘out to get us’ as much as they are looking to ‘fit in’ with the ruling elite…but ONLY if they tow the line that has been towed now for decades, obviously. On June 4, 1963 JFK signed Exec. Order 11110 to end the FED and return money printing to the US treasury. That order was rescinded not six months later by LBJ…the same day Kennedy was assasinated. Couldn’t even wait for the body to be cold, but of course he had no choice, that being made clear in Dallas that day. I would figure the 2008 E. Howard Hunt written and video confession of his knowledge/involvement of the JFK CONSPIRACY would have qualified that event as a ‘proven’ but given it was virtually ignored by MSM, I guess we’ll have to wait for it to make the list. As for present day, Obama is the final nail in the coffin for me in terms of ANY trust I had in government.

    And fyi – If you don’t KNOW by now that 911 was an inside job its because you don’t want to or you haven’t done the research. It was the modern day, upgraded version of the Northwoods plan and then some, complete with remote-drone planes and of course FAKE victims. Many of them from the CNN memorial website have pictures – complete with obituaries – that were created BEFORE the attacks, Mark Bingham being one of many. A complete obit would not be poss. without prior knowledge of course. When the researchers at ‘letsroll.org’ broke their first discovery of this – after analyzing the pics via a Exif viewer downloaded for free – CNN ‘coincidentally’ began removing mass numbers of the photos.

    And take a look at ALL the photos you can find of the WTC rubble pile and notice there are NO building contents, i.e. the 245acres of carpeting, 15000toilets/sinks/urinals, 45000desks/chairs, 40000file cabinets, 40000cubicles, 5000vending machines, 45000computer monitors/keyboards, 75000telephones, 300mainframe computers, 3000printers, 3000copiers, 20000miles of wiring, 400refridgerators, 2200stainless steel elevator doors, 3000wallets/purses, etc. etc. This is EXACTLY what one would expect of buildings that were prepared in advance for demolition. Don’t shout, don’t jump up and down…go look for yourself. There is a way to break free of the stranglehold the ruling elite have put on the masses…but only once we unite in truth for nothing else matters.

    1. Paul

      You hit the nail right on the head with 9-11. And who ever the idiot is who had the idea of injecting liquid c4…well whatever your smoking you need to quit hogging it and pass that stuff around. That is by far the most impossible thing to do.

    2. Cheng

      Yeah! Someone snuck in over the weekend and took all that stuff before the RC planes hit and all those “fake” victims were immortalised forever. Of course, he had to make a couple of trips.
      Some stuff is still available on ebay.

      Personally, I don’t think the WTC ever existed. It was a government conspiracy from the start all done with mirrors.

    3. Collin from CT

      This makes sense. Why does the government controll the school system? to brainwash the youth into thinking how the government wants them to. I’m 15 and I realize this, everybody else thinks I’m stupid. If you can control how the youth, or the future thinks, you can control anything you want. Everything is biased towards the liberals at school. Leberals are the modern day communists.

      1. CO

        Collin…you are not stupid…you are wise beyond your years. For decades, American progressives have, silently & in large numbers, been slowly introducing more & more liberal propaganda into our public school curriculum. They are teaching our kids to trust government, something I was not taught. I was taught to love my country but distrust my government. Governments are ALWAYS corrupt…that much power concentrated in so few hands will always lead to corruption…our founding father’s knew this first-hand & did everything in their power to control the power that is given to our elected officials. Over the last 30 – 40 years those controls have slowly & decisively been eroded. We need kids to question everything…not be controlled by political correctness & fear of being called out for thinking for themselves!!

    4. spiritusursus

      Loose change. Look at the Pentagon after the supposed “plane” hit. No discernible airplane debris, no seats, no engines, or even parts of engines, no human body parts, no nothing but a bigass hole. And no wing-shaped holes. “Derp?” Are we Americans really that delusional? “Derp, derp, baaa…”
      Ummm… I think I will just let the evidence (and/or lack thereof) stand on its own merit and speak mutely for itself. ‘Scuse me, I have to go outside and puke now.

  8. Gareth Jones

    I think your point about our inability to estimate probabilities well is good. What concerns me, though, is that the conspiracies you list span 1932 to 1974 without a single year being conspiracy-free. If you look at the year of the Gulf of Tonkin incident (1964), you will see that Operation Mockingbird, MKULTRA, the Human Radiation Experiments, the Tuskagee Syphilis Study, and Project Shad were all running…six of the ten at the same time. The last date you have for any of these conspiracies is 1974, the end of the Watergate Scandals and the Human Radiation experiments, although Project Shad was not admitted until 1978. So, the probability of illegal, unethical, and secret activities taking place in the years after 1974 seems very high, considering that we were not through with them in the preceding four decades. The admitted practice of “extraordinary rendition,” increasingly used since the 1980’s is proof of that, and helps to fill in the gap after 1974.

    -Gareth Jones

  9. sabrina

    there are many more proven government conspiracies than just these ten, but i’d like to add one that really should be in the top ten: Iran-Contra affair.

    regarding 9/11…there is a huge amount of evidence to support a government conspiracy, but it still cannot be conclusively proven and so far has served to merely shoot (a great many) holes in the official version of the story.

  10. Drew Jones

    Maybe none of yall realise, but non to long ago a German dude proved to the world that 9 11 was in fact a nuke under the WTC dont belive me,,,,, Whatch this very carfuly & listen to what the guy sais…. maybe then some of you will wake up….

  11. Xeno Post author

    Interesting theory. Is using the phrase “Ground Zero” for 9/11 an example of hiding something in plain sight? Khalezov explains that there were three 150 kiloton nuclear devices underground detonated about 50 meters underground to destroy the three WTC buildings, two of which were hit by jets. They were, he says, kept under WTC7 and delivered in tunnels to the other two buildings. Khalezov says the underground bombs created compression waves that pulverized anything that gave resistance above ground. The dust clouds of the collapsing WTC buildings do look a bit like the micro nuke M388 Davy Crockett tested successfully in the late 1950’s. But where is the radiation? It stayed mostly underground?

    The M-388 round used a version of the W54 warhead, a very small sub-kiloton fission device. The Mk-54 weighed about 51 lb (23 kg), with a selectable yield equivalent to 10 or 20 tons of TNT (very close to the minimum practical size and yield for a fission warhead). The complete round weighed 76 lb … the shell’s greatest effect would have been its extreme radiation hazard. Even at a low yield setting, the M-388 would produce an almost instantly lethal radiation dosage (in excess of 10,000 rem) within 500 feet (150 m), and a probably fatal dose (around 600 rem) within a quarter mile (400 m).[3] … The warhead was tested on July 7, 1962 in the Little Feller II weapons effects test shot, and again in an actual firing of the Davy Crockett from a distance of 1.7 miles (2.72 km) in the Little Feller I test shot on July 17. This was the last atmospheric test detonation at the Nevada Test Site. … Production of the Davy Crockett began in 1956, with a total of 2,100 being made. … Versions of the W54 warhead were also used in the Special Atomic Demolition Munition project and the AIM-26A Falcon. … The AIM-26 Falcon was a larger, more powerful version of the AIM-4 Falcon air-to-air missile built by Hughes. It is the only guided U.S. air-to-air weapon with a nuclear warhead … – wiki

    The 150 kiloton nukes should have produced measurements of about 5.7 on the Richter scale, but only measurements of 2.1 were shown at the nearest station. Khalezov says the traces made public are faked. I don’t buy that because what most people don’t know is that there are seismic stations all over the place, many run by civilians, teachers, armature scientists, and there would have been all kinds of evidence of multiple explosions, unless this is some new super weapon that is able to focus the shock wave from a blast, like a laser. Hard to imagine how that could be possible.

      1. Xeno Post author

        I’ve never heard anyone claim 9/11 was fake. Anyone can verify that the towers fell. People who build buildings, however, say that two jets could not have caused the three WTC buildings to fall as they did. They were designed to survive an aircraft crash. As far as it being a tragedy, the only people I’ve ever heard of who did not seem to think it was a tragedy where the five guys in the white van the FBI arrested who set up cameras beforehand pointing at the towers. They were smiling and high-fiveing each other when everyone else was in shock.

    1. Johnson

      I [screw]ing hate all of the people that could even consider that 911 was a conspiracy. You are all mentally retarded.

      1. Xeno Post author

        You sure hate a lot of people, Johnson. Also, I’m guessing that you don’t understand that the official US government position is that 9/11 *was* a conspiracy… by a small group of terrorists armed with box cutters. Being able to consider wrongdoing by your government is one of your duties as an American citizen. That’s in the Declaration of Independence. If you want to live in a country where the citizens have to have 100% faith in their leaders, you should live in a dictatorship, not a democracy.

      2. Xeno Post author

        “Democracy” is just the common slang term for democratic republic. You are correct, we all know that we don’t vote on any issues other than locally. We elect representatives who REpresent the PUBLIC. (RE-PUBLIC). We are local democracies forming a republic. Personally, I’d like us each to be able to vote on how the USA spends our tax dollars.

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  13. jess

    lol, how the truck did that planes nose pop through the other side of the building without a scratch? just to much, nukes makes sence, and how bout the pentagon? no marks from the wings, there is too much evidence total that supports the goverment did this. its a shame, but we all deserve death and cruel testing by the government with out our consent cuz were all fuckin dumb. americans are truely fucking dumb.and no bodys found in the plane that crashed (or was shot down) in the field? i just wonder what really happened to those poor people who were supposed to be on the planes, cuz they were killed most likely by american soldiers, who are also very fucking dumb, you would have to be inbread in order to join any branch of military……like dirty pigs being lead to slaughter. no wonder everyone outside the united states wants us dead. china is coming

  14. Carlo

    I wanna thank you for writing this post. Simply for your opening statement how you trust your government, I tend to get too bogged down watching fictional crime dramas and then wonder if anyone still trusts government and BELIEVES it. You put it in a realistic light, one that makes me feel better that I trust the government as do you. Oh granted i don’t do it blindly, but i still do. So thanks 🙂

  15. Terry James Neal (formerly McNeal)

    Even though the “Idiot” Bush (I.Q.85) could not get this simple saying correct…. “Fool me once, shame on you…but fool me twice, shame on me”. Has our government not fooled us “many” times? These are proven and documented and even admitted lies with apologies to the people of this once great country. Or are we too dumb (like George) to realize this? Only an “Idiot” or a “liar” would trust “any” Government anywhere on this planet! I trust in myself and in my God…everyone else, I question! You should also…

    1. Xeno Post author

      I think you are repeating an Internet hoax as if it is true. Bush’s IQ is not available. Based on his SAT scores and comparing them to Clinton’s, Ws IQ was probably closer to 110, but that’s not a good way to estimate IQ. Nevertheless, I think he made the dumbest decisions of any president so far, the worst for our health, freedom and our long term happiness. Instead of going on a Christian war crusade for oil and starting an endless fake war on terror to justify military spending, he should have mobilized everyone on the planet to solve our mutual problems: lack of clean energy, etc. He also said the stupidest things.

      “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
      –Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

      Or perhaps he was just being accidentally honest.

  16. dan

    i trust the gov’t just not anyone involved in it…..
    the idea of it is still good just the execution has failed. money has taken over and now rules everything. its prob not the alex jones tale but there is def something up with our system and the ppl who run it and benefit from it. ive always said what about the first trade center attack? didnt they admit to giving him the device ? either way it could be simple, they just LET it happen. we will never know tho…

  17. Mike

    I don’t trust the government. We knew 9-11 was about to happen and chose not to act and stop it. Our government allowed it, probably even orchestrated it so we could go war on another country. I trust God and God alone. Man proves time and again they can’t be trusted. We destroy that which we don’t understand everytime and throughout history.

    1. Mike

      There is so much our government has it’s hands in and manipulating it, blaming others for things we’ve started like the Arab – Israeli war for example. Hollister is a huge contributer to these conspiracies and our UN is nothing but a puppet.

  18. Unknown

    After those ten conspiracies wouldn’t your faith in the government be deminished ??? I mean fool me once shame on me fool me twice shame on you . Hmmmm

  19. Fanboy

    Would HARRP ring a bell or what about the the gold that was moved two weeks before or no parts of aircraft showed up at any site think about it

    1. chaandon

      You cant tell me other wise man, this thing reaks of foul play.I will get to my primary theory why NORAD pilots were not permitted to intercept ANY of the four alleged hijacker jetliners on September 11, 2001. As everyone knows by now, the four jumbo jets were “allegedly” hijacked. I use the word allegedly because not one of the eight Boeing pilots and co-pilots pushed a four digit code to alert air traffic controllers their planes were being hijacked.

      In the nearly 40 minutes between the second WTC tower being struck and the Pentagon being hit, not one USAF fighter plane circled Washington DC. NOT ONE. Andrews Air Force base is about 10-12 air miles from the US capitol by air, less than 90 seconds by fighter jet. NORAD, at that time, was nowhere to be seen.

      According to official hearings, held two days after 9-11 the following pertinent questions arose. The reply is revealing as were the result.

      SENATOR BILL NELSON: “General Myers, The second World Trade tower was hit shortly after 9:00. And the Pentagon was hit approximately 40 minutes later. That’s approximately. You would know specifically what the timeline was. The crash that occurred in Pennsylvania after the Newark westbound flight was turned around 180 degrees and started heading back to Washington was approximately an hour after the World Trade Center second explosion. You said earlier in your testimony that we had not scrambled any military aircraft until after the Pentagon was hit. And so, my question would be: Why?”

      GENERAL MYERS: “I think I had that right, that it was not until then. I’d have to go back and review the exact timelines.”

      SENATOR BILL NELSON: “Commenting from CNN on the timeline, 9:03 is the correct time that the United Airlines flight crashed into the south tower of the World Trade Center; 9:43 is the time that American Airlines flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon. And 10:10 a.m. is the time that United Airlines flight 93 crashed in Somerset County, Pennsylvania. So that was 40 minutes between the second tower being hit and the Pentagon crash. And it is an hour and seven minutes until the crash occurred in Pennsylvania.”

      You be the judge here: Was this a massive case of incompetence or were top US generals used as scapegoats on 911? Had SecDef Rumsfeld and Vice president Cheney overridden their powers and quietly assumed command of NORAD in the months before 911? Who was in charge?

      According to Micharl Kane: “The war games & terror drills played a critical role in ensuring no Air Force fighter jocks – who had trained their entire lives for this moment – would be able to prevent the attacks from succeeding. These exercises were under Dick Cheney’s management.”

      Prior to the attack, Cheney retreated to the underground shelter of the White House and monitored the incoming flight 77 from there. Curiously, he sought shelter in what would seem to be the top target of any terrorist.

      Although Washington DC contained several top targets in the country—the White House, Senate building and Pentagon among others–landmarks representing the status and supremacy of the US, and although the “attack” on America was fully 45 minutes underway, not a single NORAD plane patrolled the skies above DC.

      “The facts were not only evidence of incompetence at the highest level, they were suspicious on their face because they smacked of a stand-down; which, if true, was treason,” wrote Mark Gaffney. “Within days (after 911) the Pentagon amended its story to allay such concerns.”

      1. spiritusursus

        Good googly-moogly. Yeah. As good an expletive as any, ain’t it? Treason at the highest levels is nothing new, Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex in his farewell address, Kennedy was assassinated because he refused to be their puppet and play ball, his brother because he knew too much, anyone they view as dangerous to their thinly veiled illusion of control is summarily executed or “mysteriously disappears” etc. Rothschilds and Rockefellers, the house of Windsor, the Bilderberg group, et al exist. Like it or not, new world order (it’s on the currency: novus ordo seclorum) is no joke or fantasy-construct of paranoia, it is as actual as the faces of the four founding thieves carved into the Sacred stone of Paha Sapa and called “Rushmore” and intentional denial of Truth does not make it any less true. However, many basically good-hearted and honest individuals balk at the notion, unwilling and/or unable to accept the fact, but fact remains fact, as it were, intact. People need to be shown proof beyond any shadow of a doubt, but shown so in such a way as to be acceptable to the mind, lest it be immediately rejected and the presenter(s) of the evidence be ridiculed as “conspiracy nuts.” Belligerent denial on a national or international level, while it does not alter the fact that conspiracy (and, for that matter, piracy) is fact and not “theory”, still is not conducive to harmony, and harmony, peaceful exchange of ideas, and unity with respect for individuality must all be achieved before anything resembling actual democracy can be realized.

        Humans are still ready to murder each other over the most mundane issues, religions can’t even agree with one another on the concept of deities, and would much rather fight than have rational discussion, which leaves us all, unfortunately, under the thumb of the faceless oppressive overlords who hide behind the curtain, pulling the strings of the big machine.

        The best an individual can aspire to is to be a Warrior. Respect Mother Earth. Give honest effort for honest reward. Take only what you need, and give back more than you take. Protect & defend the innocent, no matter the cost to oneself. These are the ways of the Warrior.

        In the Spirit of Crazy Horse,

  20. spiritusursus

    Ok, so let me get this straight, you still trust the government, with whom you are employed, even though you cite operation Northwoods, operation Mockingbird, etc. you still trust them, that about sum it up? Are you the typical “government employee with a valium deficiency?” Or are you just being smartasstic? I can’t tell. Have you heard of M. William Cooper? He wrote a book called ‘Behold: A Pale Horse’ I suggest you read it. I’ll leave it at that. Use this interwebz which was not invented by Al Gore, and do your own research.

  21. Sam

    A commenter said that 9-11 could not be proven to be an inside job. This is not true. Look at building #7 which was not hit by a plane. It fell around 108 feet at the same speed as a bowling ball would fall if dropped in mid air next to it. This is impossible. All structures have some resistance to falling. Even if they’re on fire. Building 7 fell fairly symmetrical even though there was no large fires on the west side. There’s videos of building #7 less than an hour before it fell and there’s no fires that could account for 108 feet or more than ten stories loosing all support. There’s also videos of reporters going into building 7 after the North tower fell showing that the building was not destroyed by the North tower falling.

    There’s tons more evidence but building 7 is enough to know someone blew those building up.

  22. I'd rather not say.

    I don’t know what to think of this. Are we cattle in the school system? Is the government doing it’s job, or is it a puppet? Tis confusing to me. P.S I really DON’T want Donald Trump to be president. He’s mean, racist, and doesn’t care.

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