Magnetohydrodynamic flying disk patent sought

By | June 18, 2008

I think this is the same story I blogged May 10 which is making the rounds again…

A new aircraft has been designed with no moving parts. It is powered by magnetohydrodynamics, the force created when a current or a magnetic field is passed through a conducting fluid.

Flying saucers may soon be more fact than mere science fiction. University of Florida mechanical and aerospace engineering associate professor Subrata Roy has submitted a patent application for a circular, spinning aircraft design reminiscent of the spaceships seen in countless Hollywood films. Roy, however, calls his design a “wingless electromagnetic air vehicle,” or WEAV.

The proposed prototype is small – the aircraft will measure less than six inches across – and will be efficient enough to be powered by on-board batteries.

Roy said the design can be scaled up and theoretically should work in a much larger form. Even in miniature, though, the design has many uses.
The most obvious functions would be surveillance and navigation. The aircraft could be designed to carry a camera and light and be controlled remotely at great distances, he said.
… the conducting fluid will be created by electrodes that cover each of the vehicle’s surfaces and ionize the surrounding air into plasma. The force created by passing an electrical current through this plasma pushes around the surrounding air, and that swirling air creates lift and momentum and provides stability against wind gusts. … – sd

This may actually be ancient technology rediscovered. This or similar technology may have been secretly in use for many years and may account for some UFO sightings.

In the Manusa, the most elaborate details for building aerial machines are set down. The Samarangana Sutradhara says that they were made of light material, with a strong, well-shaped body. Iron, copper, internal linkmercury and lead were used in their construction. They could fly to great distances and were propelled through air by motors. The Samarangana Sutradhara text devotes 230 stanzas to the building of these machines, and their uses in peace and war:

Strong and durable must the body be made, like a great flying bird, of light material. Inside it one must place the Mercury-engine with its iron heating apparatus beneath. By means of the power latent in the mercury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky in a most marvelous manner. Similarly by using the prescribed processes one can build a vimana as large as the temple of the God-in-motion. Four strong mercury containers must be built into the interior structure. When these have been heated by controlled fire from iron containers, the vimana develops thunder-power through the mercury. And at once it becomes a pearl in the sky. Moreover, if this iron engine with properly welded joints be filled with mercury, and the fire be conducted to the upper part it develops power with the roar of a lion. – fa

3 thoughts on “Magnetohydrodynamic flying disk patent sought

  1. Árni Árnason

    I would sincerely like to know if anyone has researched into the posibility for an engine of this sort to in fact be able to sustain movement of a craft.

    thank you very much

  2. Grant hayman


    I have done much research into this same propulsion system. It can be applied in many different forms. It could be made like drawn if light enough. It ionizes the air with an electrostatic charge( presumably produced by a battery and high voltage multiplier ), then uses electronic to send this high voltage to which ever electrodes you choose. A rotating electrostatic field, positive on the top and negative on the bottom, causes the ions to move downward, and if rotating you get extra lift from the Coanda effect and Aerodynamic Lift. The main issue would be if enough air could be ionized using a battery powered, high voltage source. And how to switch the high voltage rapidlly around to each electrode. Need some of those wicked little RC helicopter batteries.

    My website has tons of information on electromagnetic fields for propulsion. Based on science not crackpot. There is a reference to ancient people using round flat stones inlayed with lodestone or iron patterns, which in some manner were made to float in the air.

    Advanced Interstellar Propulsion Systems

  3. Grant hayman

    I missed the bit about helium and a motor, in the previous blog.

    Motor would be inside spinning an electrically charged rotor( like a distributor on a car with more contacts ). Rotor points electrify outside electrodes as rotor passes each electrode. Probably three or four small light rotor arms would work. With better batteries and electronic switching, you could lose the helium I bet.

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